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Please say a prayer: 20mph in Wales

Most of the driving I do through London is through 20mph limits, just set cruise control and crack on. Most of our estates are 20mph, I enjoy seeing the faces boil behind me as they want to speed past. I personally see no issue and the only problems are those drivers getting rage and pressuring the one in front to break the limit.
People doing 20 in a national...well that happens regardless as it seems I'd say 45-55% of drivers do not know what the national speed limit sign means.
20mph limit doesn't increase accidents, drivers cause accidents, especially those using tunnel vision. If a person cannot react to a situation at 20mph they should rethink if they should be driving. You can nail it dead at 20mph as it's at a speed the average driver can react quick enough.
My driving has completely changed the past year, despite driving a performance car I now drive like a granny with cataracts going to Sunday worship.
 
Elgraman said:
I was reading an advanced motoring book before and it said the amount of hits due solely because of speed pails into insignificance compared to non-sped related driver error.
So, I wonder how many of the 'statistics' of accidents they use to push a policy were actually totally due to speed, and how many were due to, say,a muppet 'driving' on his or her mobile phone?
In connection, I wonder how many hits were primarily due to a pedestrian error- walking out between parked cars, walking across a road looking at a cat doing 11 meows a second on ticktok?
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But how many of those would have been avoided if the driver was doing 20 and so way more than ample time to react?
 
P4ddy said:
But how many of those would have been avoided if the driver was doing 20 and so way more than ample time to react?
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I don't know. 'Driving' while looking at a mobile? Probably none. They have no reaction time. And considering the pedestrians, again I don't know, a question might be how many would have been avoided had a person had that pesky thing called personal responsibility and personally chose not to walk into the middle of a road glued to the meowing cat trending video on ticktoc?
 
P4ddy said:
Most of our estates are 20mph, I enjoy seeing the faces boil behind me as they want to speed past.
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You will always have people who like to have a feeling of control :cool:
 
Nevillerover said:
There used to be public information films teaching kids how to cross the road. Surely a social media campaign targeted at kids on their phones would be cheaper than what Wales has spent?
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But only in the form of a TikTok challenge ....
 
As I said, if a person cannot stop dead from 20mph if someone steps out (whilst watching a cat video on tiktok) then they need to rethink if they should be driving
 
P4ddy said:
As I said, if a person cannot stop dead from 20mph if someone steps out (whilst watching a cat video on tiktok) then they need to rethink if they should be driving
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And maybe the person should reconsider if they should be walking.


However, the argument can apply to n cases of driving, not just cherry picking parts:

A 'driver' uses his/her mobile phone when 'driving'? then they need to rethink if they should be driving

I enjoy seeing the faces boil behind me as they want to speed past.
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A person enjoys seeing (and hence getting distracted via emotion) other drivers' 'faces boil' in following cars? then they need to rethink if they should be driving

In addition:
A person 'drives' at 20mph in 60mph zones? then they need to rethink if they should be driving

A person struggles to park? then they need to rethink if they should be driving

...the list goes on and on and on. A good way to get 99% of motorists of the roads lol
 
LeStempy said:
A person buys a black Elgrand? Then they need to rethink if they should be driving.....
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I'd go further in my case; I should have had a rethink if I should be driving long before I put the deposit down on a black Elgrand
 
The thing with these types of threads is they often go down divisive (20mph ) roads, where camp A want them scrapped, and camp B endorse them.
Granted a bit ironic given I started the thread (šŸ§), but it is often the way these types of threads pan out.
 
Elgraman said:
The thing with these types of threads is they often go down divisive (20mph ) roads, where camp A want them scrapped, and camp B endorse them.
Granted a bit ironic given I started the thread (šŸ§), but it is often the way these types of threads pan out.
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And someone gets the hump.

Mind, where there are humps the speed limit is 20mph anyway :rolleyes:
 
Elgraman said:
And maybe the person should reconsider if they should be walking.
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Change how they walk, quit the head down headphones on approach (this applies to cyclist too) and open your bloudy eyes and ears
Elgraman said:
However, the argument can apply to n cases of driving, not just cherry picking parts:

A 'driver' uses his/her mobile phone when 'driving'? then they need to rethink if they should be driving
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Absolutely
Elgraman said:
A person enjoys seeing (and hence getting distracted via emotion) other drivers' 'face boil' in following cars? then they need to rethink if they should be driving
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I don't go out of my way to antagonise and sit there smiling and laughing, my words were exaggerated but I do think fu...you when I get them behind me coz they're bad tempered self entitled idiots
Elgraman said:
In addition:
A person 'drives' at 20mph in 60mph zones? then they need to rethink if they should be driving
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They need to read the highway code or do the theory test. Especially if that person is a repeat offender. Pulled over "do you know blah de blah"? "Eerrr no??" Retest time.
Elgraman said:
A person struggles to park? then they need to rethink if they should be driving
..the list goes on and on and on. A good way to get 99% of motorists of the roads lol
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No, we all have a bad parking day moment,
 
Nevillerover said:
Which sketch, I donā€™t recall it.
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I tried to find it on the toob but failed. I only vaguely remember it, just that the line 'wash my mouth out with soap and water' was used repetetively.
 
I wish they would enforce simple things first.

Hogging middle lane.

Driving at 40 in a 70

Ignoring red lights, and I mean just about every road use, it's like it's become optional.

Use of phones, I could record 20 a day in my van more on motorcycle.

And what is becoming a real menace, electric scooters/bikes
 
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